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]]> By: sajji http://fithufail.wordpress.com/2006/12/13/islam-polygamy-and-the-state/#comment-45 sajji Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:20:38 +0000 http://fithufail.wordpress.com/2006/12/13/islam-polygamy-and-the-state/#comment-45 I think that the state is acting on common sense. It is important to setup a division between religion and state processes for a number of reasons. First, no religious state can be "religious enough". I'm from Pakistan and we see this struggle between a moderate government and the Mullas. It's been going on for decades - and in many other countries. Second, there are many instructions in the Quran (and the Bible) that are just plain wrong. For example, slavery is also permitted in Islam (and Christianity) - would the state permit this? Quran: 4:92 “It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood- money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave.” Bible: Exodus 21:20-21 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. Both Quran and Bible never tell you to set your slaves free. But slaver is now an international crime. I believe that every state in their evolution will encounter this moral dilemma: On the one hand, if the state starts to create laws based on religious doctrine, then how far will it go. On the other hand, should the state separate itself from God and create laws based on common sense and humanity, rather than questionable religious dogma. I think that the state is acting on common sense. It is important to setup a division between religion and state processes for a number of reasons. First, no religious state can be “religious enough”. I’m from Pakistan and we see this struggle between a moderate government and the Mullas. It’s been going on for decades – and in many other countries. Second, there are many instructions in the Quran (and the Bible) that are just plain wrong. For example, slavery is also permitted in Islam (and Christianity) – would the state permit this?

Quran: 4:92 “It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood- money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave.”

Bible: Exodus 21:20-21
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

Both Quran and Bible never tell you to set your slaves free. But slaver is now an international crime.

I believe that every state in their evolution will encounter this moral dilemma: On the one hand, if the state starts to create laws based on religious doctrine, then how far will it go. On the other hand, should the state separate itself from God and create laws based on common sense and humanity, rather than questionable religious dogma.

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